Following on from the previous post, I can give you the true story of the crucifixion:
Thursday, 8 January 2009
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25 comments:
Not bad (for a tim ;-))
apparently on his first day at the ship yards - they took him to an old man that worked in a hut - who could - purely on visual inspection tell if you were a hun or a tim. And as usual the old man got it correct.
handy skill to have
One of my friends often has an uncanny way of telling where people come from just by looking at them - wooooooooo.
Reminds me of a comment I heard a long time ago:
"Jist look at him, he's got pape ee'n"
(he was a left footer as well. Uncanny!)
:-))
SG
It does kind of sound bad to say it, but you can sometimes tell.
I think DR said that catholics have horns or something - or did he have a horn for martin (lets burn some jews) luther?
why was martin luther only killing jews - was he prejudiced ?
Luther personally didn't kill any Jews, although he did write that infamous On the Jews and Their Lies. Bit of a wank by all accounts, although Ich kann nicht anders is a fine motto for many occasions.
Neat summary of Luther and the Jews here:
http://kimel.net/luther.html
SG,
That's pretty fucked up isn't it.
I think I'll throw this at DR the next time he reappears
""First, . . . set fire to their synagogues or schools and . . . bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians . . .. [It would be good if someone could also throw in some] hellfire."
"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed.
"
There is a spot on North st in St Andrews marking where Patrick Hamilton (a disciple of Luther) was burned. There is no mention of his anti semitic teachings - quite an oversight I would say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patric
k_Hamilton_(martyr)
Billy,
Yes StA is full of reminders of the intolerance of religion. There are also the initials of George Wishart outside the Castle, where, accrding toi a story I heard, Cardinal Beaton ate his breakfast while watching GW burn.
There is a "Martyrs' Monument" along the cliff that lists the names of proddies burned by papes.
Of course, better still, there is a "Geological Wall" composed of samples of Fife rocks nearby! One of a series of projects apparently by local geologists to help promote the "public understanding of science"
Here it is:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/627060
Back to the martyrs and the hatreds, it seems to me that Islam is at the same stage that christianity was at 500 years ago.
Does that mean we have to wait 500 years before they calm down?
And, shock horror of course, produce their own equivalent of DR? AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!
:-)
SG
SG,
Of course, cardinal Beaton was murdered in revenge by another of DR's heros John Knox, who probably had a hand in it too
http://www.nls.uk/scotlandspages/ti
meline/1546.html
Never noticed the wall before (you can even see my old flat on that map). Scotland is very blessed in terms of the variety of rocks we have.
There is another wall at knockan crag too
http://www.see.leeds.ac.uk/structur
e/assyntgeology/phpgallery/image/cl
assic/knockan/rockseq
Which reminds me about my plan to pelt creotard john mackay with Lewisian gneiss when he visits UHI. If we let i pebble = 6000 years and we hit him with a pebble for every 6000 years he is out on the age of Lewisisn gneiss, we hould have to throw over 333 000 pebbles at him :-)
333,000 pebbles eh? Better get that Harris superquarry going again then!
On the geo monuments theme, there is another one at Bonar Bridge as well
This guy has some pictures of it on his web pages:
http://www.jbutler.org.uk/cgi-bin/image.cgi?Dornoch/98582.jpg
Actually that site of J Butler is quite impressive - its been around for years and he has 1000's of pics on it - lots of good hill pics as well. The HTML is all quite simple, but its "nane the waur" for that. In fact, IMO, its a bonus.
Worth a look!
:-)
SG
PS: Know what, DR has been too quiet all week - he'll be back on Monday mornign, 7am that's his favourite time, just you watch....
PS: Know what, DR has been too quiet all week - he'll be back on Monday mornign, 7am that's his favourite time
Reminds me of his hero Martin luther whe yoused to get up early a snd shout at the Devil "I have shit in my pants, and you can hang them around your neck and wipe your mouth with it." Luther also thought that he could drive the devil away "with a single fart."
Billy, sounds like Luther had some sort of scat fetish.... still, the bible has got a bit of that:
"Isaiah 36:12
But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?"
Or
Ezekiel 4:12
And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
Or
Malachi 2:3
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces
Bet you not much of that gets taught at Sunday School!
But, hey, a good one for you here. Have you come across this "Aberdeen gay minister" business?
Full story here:
http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1017997
Of course, the 'tards over at christianstogether.net have their own tolerant take on the issue:
http://www.christianstogether.net/Articles/136433/Christians_Together_in/Christian_Life/Current_News/A_gay_minister.aspx
Hell of a URL, I know - If you go to the actual homepage however, it is one of the top stories
Interestingly, one of the ministers who is most against this is on the steering committee of "Forward Together" and claims in his blog that he had a great time at the wait for it, Crieff Fellowship!!
Wonder what Davey's take will be....
:-)))
SG
On a totally unrelated topic, have you ever read the National Covenant, signed in 1638 against Charles I? It is often cited as claiming freedom of worship, an early form of democratic document like the Magna Carta, Declaration of Arbroath, or US Declaration of Independence.
Got to admit when I read it I was surprised, but not particularly shocked, to discover that the bulk of it concerns itself with anti-Papist rhetoric and the persecution of Catholics.
RC,
I'll need to look it out, but like you say, not very suprising.
Personally, I'd love to have an atheist monarch for a laugh - that would mess things up a bit :-) (not as much a a gay muslim one would though :-)))))
PS, you should read the westminister confession of faith concerning the pope being the antichrist. Wee free ministers (and others) have to swear to "own" the confession at their ordination.
Dont you have an interesting story about hitch hiking and "the whore of Babylon"?
Just had a wee look at the Westminster Confession. It's long, isn't it?
Yes, I did meet a Free Church minister whilst hitchhiking. Bit creepy, but a harmless fellow.
>>Personally, I'd love to have an atheist monarch for a laugh - that would mess things up a bit :-)
Well, the Church of England is only a ba'hair away from atheism ;)
Well, the Church of England is only a ba'hair away from atheism ;)
Funny, I know a wee free minister who would say something like that. His name is an anagram of Sodden Vibrator - just like some other chap we know, whom I must remind of that fact :-)
The church of England is actually depressingly full of evangelicals. The Scottish Episcopal and Fabulous Church, on the other hand, is a much more enlightened place ;-).
Bought the Church of England Newspaper in (bleuchh)Wesley Owen today. They overcharged me 40p! Fannies.
CB,
I'm sure that's a stoning offence for them. Want some gneiss? :-)
The Scottish Episcopal and Fabulous Church, on the other hand, is a much more enlightened place ;-)
Its because they have lots of people praying for them (small print, bottom right)
http://pig.sty.nu/Pictures/south_inch/half_creationist_billboard.jpg
Epeeist,
You gotta love that verse. How that can make sense to anyone is beyond me. It also ignores the fact that "creation" as we supposedly see it today is supposedly corrupt. How is that meant to provide evidence of a perfect creator?
Billy
Love that poster. Everything you see in it, the galaxy, the Earth from space, everything that is seen there is seen because of scientific progress.
The bible reveals none of that. Zilch.
Fannybaws, all of them....
:-)
SG
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